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Andre Reed: Part 2 – Grit, Greatness, and Growth
Hall of Fame wide receiver Andre Reed is back on Unglossy with Bun B, Tom Frank, and Jeffrey Sledge for Part 2 of our conversation. This time, the Bills legend opens up about life after football and the season ahead—mixing wisdom, humor, and a few bold predictions.
From surviving –43 degree temperatures in Alaska to calling a 13-4 record for Buffalo this year, Andre gives us his unfiltered take on extreme conditions, fantasy football sleepers, and why Kansas City is still the mountain the Bills must climb. He draws parallels between NFL rivalries and modern rap beefs, breaks down why the defensive line will decide Buffalo’s Super Bowl hopes, and explains why Bills Mafia is the best fan base in sports.
Along the way, Andre reflects on meeting his wife the day he got the Hall of Fame call, what legacy really means, and how authenticity defines both football greatness and life beyond the game.
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Speaker 2:When I go to the hall every year, when I put on that yellow jacket not going to lie to you y'all I'm a little different person when I'm around all the Hall of Famers Just a little bit different Right from the start. I'm amongst greatness 120 guys whose journeys maybe have been similar, maybe not, but we all went through something to get to that point.
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Speaker 1:We're back with part two of our conversation with Hall of Famer Andre Reid.
Speaker 2:And my wife, who we've been married a year and a half now. No, almost two years, two years now. I'm glad she ain't here because I might get that wrong. I was about to say you better get that right. She might come out of nowhere, you don't know how long you've been married Exactly.
Speaker 2:You better recognize them or something. But she's a sports marketing agent, so I met her the day I got the call for the Hall of Fame in 2014. She was the first one to interview me Wow, in New York City, when the Super Bowl was there that year and she loves sports. She's actually from New Jersey, was born in Alaska. Bun you ever been to Alaska?
Speaker 3:I have. I've been to Anchorage and it ain't too much around there, but Anchorage.
Speaker 2:I've been higher than you. Fairbanks, which is about Fairbanks, is up there, bro. You can smell polar bears.
Speaker 3:You got to take the little plane to get to Fairbanks? Yeah, you do, and I don't mean the jet, you got to take the twin props.
Speaker 2:You got to take that little one. That goes. You got to take that one. And her parents were born from Philadelphia, from New Jersey, so she's Italian, she's got New Jersey in her she's. You know, girls from New Jersey, they're Italians, they have no filter at all.
Speaker 1:I'm married to a Philadelphia, new Jersey, italian.
Speaker 2:Does she?
Speaker 1:have a filter. She don't got no filter, no filter. And man, when it comes to sports, we get out of her way.
Speaker 2:So she was in sports her whole life. They moved to Alaska and she played basketball and her mom told her your mom's a teacher, her dad's a teacher, sister's a teacher, they're all teachers. Her mom said to her when she was in high school why don't you be a teacher? And she said you know what I'm going to get into sports. So she's a sports marketing agent and she is phenomenal, she's awesome at what she does. So, plus, she has to deal with me.
Speaker 1:Toughest client of all, exactly.
Speaker 2:Exactly the toughest of all, but I'm a little softy when it comes to herself. What can I imagine? And Alaska is a different bird. So fairbanks is about 600 miles from the arctic circle. So yeah, you're, you're way up there. Yeah, every day I was there, I was looking outside to see some big, something big and white, come strolling through a big old bear or something.
Speaker 1:You thought it was cold in Buffalo. That's a whole nother cold Bruh.
Speaker 2:Quick story the first time I was up there I looked at the clock on the University of Alaska. It was minus 43. No wind, Not a wind chill.
Speaker 3:Nothing Minus 43 degrees outside. I don't even know what that does to the body?
Speaker 2:I don't either. I know what it does to the eyes shit. You don't even go out, you look at it, you stay in. That's what you do.
Speaker 3:We get a little of that with the heat Bro minus 43.
Speaker 2:You know it's pretty bad when the car is hooked up to some electric and it don't start.
Speaker 3:And it still don't start.
Speaker 2:It still don't start. It just says no, I ain't doing it today.
Speaker 3:Matter of fact I ain't doing it ever. This is my thing. I do prefer the cold to the heat and I'll tell you why. Yeah, give me that one. If it's cold outside I could put on enough layers and gloves and face masks and all these things and I can get a level of warmth, but if it's down, here.
Speaker 1:when it's 100 degrees outside, I can get a level of warmth, but if it's down here and you see when- it's 100 degrees outside you can get butt-ass naked and you're still hot.
Speaker 3:You are still hot. You can take off everything on you and you're just naked and hot.
Speaker 2:You can't even peel. You're trying to peel off your skin. You're trying to peel off. Hey, maybe I can take this off. It'll be good.
Speaker 3:You, you trying to peel off your skin, you trying to peel off. Hey, maybe I could take this off, it'll be good.
Speaker 2:You might want to take a bath, you just go sit in the tub all day. Man that Texas heat ain't no joke.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not. That's 100 degrees, like 100 days in a row, but you know people that live up in cold weather love to come to the heat for the summer, and people that live in the heat love to come to the heat for the summer, and people that live in the heat love to go to the cold for the winter. I'm looking for a white Christmas. Every Christmas, I'm looking for a white Christmas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there ain't no white, but here you can go. I'm two hours from Palm Springs, so that's Right now in Palm Springs it's like 115.
Speaker 3:That's the desert that's different. That's dry like 115. That's the desert, that's different. That's dry 115.
Speaker 2:I can deal with that. I played golf in 100 degrees, 110.
Speaker 3:That's dry heat, here is humidity, so you got heat coming down and you got heat coming up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're right about that Totally different beast?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. It's a totally different beast. But you know what, as long as there's water around, I'm good to go.
Speaker 1:Amen to that. That's the key Hope we lost Jeff for now Looks like we lost Jeff this time. We're going to keep going. So I got to ask you about this Highmark Stadium Last year in the stadium Looks like we lost Jeff this time. We're going to keep going. So I got to ask you about this Go ahead Highmark.
Speaker 1:Stadium. Last year in the stadium you got Buffalo Bills on hard knocks. You got a really promising season coming up. What's your take and correct me if I'm wrong you are the guy on the game number one. What's the tradition? There's a tradition in Buffalo, right where you're going to be honored. It's called Game one.
Speaker 2:You lead the charge. It's called. Okay, I'm actually going to be there hyping up the crowd. You know it's called Baltimore's coming in, lamar's coming in. Yeah, it's Sunday night opening game. Thursday night or Sunday night, I think it's Sunday night football Opening game. It's going to be bananas bro.
Speaker 2:That's what Tom said, dude, and they're going to try to avenge what happened last year. So right now, most publications and most people in the media, they're talking about Josh Lamar AFC Championship again Talking about A're talking about Josh Lamar AFC Championship again Talking about AFC Championship Josh Lamar it's not that I don't see that. Bill's got a pretty tough schedule. They got some trap games Like everybody has trap games every year but this will set the tone, whoever wins this game will set the tone for the season for them.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. They're going to spend the rest of the season trying to live it down. Is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Of course, because, guess what? That'll be the game that they like in week 11, they'll be like oh man, yep, Yep, back in the day, it was always us against Miami Marino, all them dudes. It was always us against.
Speaker 4:Miami. Yeah, yeah, andre, quick question, and no disrespect to Jim Kelly, because obviously he's Hall of Famer. Is Josh the best quarterback you've seen?
Speaker 3:Go ahead. Oh, I froze up on this. Oh, he's reconnecting. We're trying to do a podcast. He might just be standing still. Maybe I'm in a different room.
Speaker 2:Let me go in a different room, guys.
Speaker 4:He might just be standing still right, it's safer to connect, all right, hopefully he pops in when he pops back in we'll finish with that.
Speaker 1:We'll go into some predictions for the year and then we're up over an hour, although we've lost a little time in there about six minutes maybe.
Speaker 3:So, we should still close around 1-5. Depending on how long it takes for this to fully shut down and then him come back in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, To get in.
Speaker 3:The feel is mutual.
Speaker 4:I'm telling you, he's definitely a big fan of yours, man.
Speaker 3:Like when we lost the Oilers, I was like I'm going to just go be a Buffalo fan for a minute, you know. But I was really know. I didn't really care about football in the same way. I didn't want to walk away from the sport fully and just not watch football. But it's hard if you don't have a dog in it.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine growing up in a city and having your team taken away. That would be just rip it out of you.
Speaker 3:It's still weird now because of the way it was done and because of the fact that there's new ownership and a new team here. Like we can't properly retire people Like there is no like, for example, earl Campbell right, one of the greatest players ever. If you wanted to retire his jersey, technically you have to retire it in Tennessee, but he never played in Tennessee. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Oh, because they're. I guess the same thing could be said about Baltimore, right? Because?
Speaker 2:Sorry guys, I moved out of that room.
Speaker 3:Maybe that was it. No, no, you're good, you're good, okay, go ahead. We. Maybe that was it. No, no, you're good, You're good, okay, go ahead. We'll wrap up with this though.
Speaker 1:We want to hear what you think of the upcoming year, what you think about the new stadium, and it's really going to make an impact in Baltimore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the Bills. I think the Bills, obviously they're going to win. I think they win the AFC East. I think they're going to be. I'm not counting Kansas City out, y'all, I'm not going to that'd be the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 2:They still got Mahomes and a great coach, andy Reid. I think it's going to be a repeat of last year to a certain point. The Bills have to get over. They got to beat Kansas City bottom line even before, whatever happens, the first game of Baltimore. Kansas City is still the reigning AFC champion, josh and Lamar got to figure it out somehow. Hopefully it's Lamar, I mean Josh. Nothing against Lamar, but to figure it out somehow. Hopefully it's Lamar, I mean Josh. It's not against Lamar, but Josh is coming off an MVP season. That's the only thing he has to do now, him and Lamar is get their team to a Super Bowl and win.
Speaker 3:I think you guys have better wide receiver depth. I think they have better run game over there. So I think you guys are fairly even match. You know what I'm saying. But Josh is just an animal of a human being in size and fortitude. Lamar is probably a mongoose playing football because he's so hard to catch.
Speaker 2:He is a crafty dude. Lamar Josh is just a. Put your head down. I'm going to run you over, even though you're a linebacker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's that Cam Newton thing. You know what? Nobody's open. I'm going to just tuck it and go.
Speaker 1:Most of y'all are smaller than me.
Speaker 3:Most of you are smaller than me Most of it, yeah, and what really set apart?
Speaker 2:what sets apart, josh, is that play. Last year, to a certain point when they played the 49ers in Buffalo I was at that game snow he throws a pass to Amari Cooper and Amari Cooper pitches it back to him and he scores a touch. I mean just like, like Sandlot, he's playing Stanlock football out there, but it'll be interesting to see what that what James Cook does. That was going to be my next question yeah.
Speaker 2:We need, we need that guy. That guy was 70, probably 45, 50 per. He was half of the offense and Josh was the other half. So we need James Cook. James, I hope you can see this podcast with Bun B on here.
Speaker 1:We need you, bro, I can guarantee you, guarantee you, james Cook will be listening to this podcast. I can guarantee it, jc, we need you.
Speaker 3:I think you're right, because quarterback play you guys match up very well. Running back play you guys match up very well. I think it's going to come down to receiver depth. I really do. They've got the young guys over there, like Keon going. I think Keon is on par for a great, great opportunity this season. They can fully integrate him.
Speaker 2:This year he's got to step up. He's got to step up this year. It's his second year he's got to step up.
Speaker 3:I think he's got the talent. Oh yeah, he does. I think now he's going to have room to show it, he's going to have time to show it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's been with Josh a year or two now, so hey, let's go.
Speaker 3:They should have that rhythm by now Be the number one.
Speaker 2:Be the number one guy. We need you. You're the number one guy Defensively, obviously, we saw what Philadelphia did to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, the first series. The game was over. I hate, I mean the game was over. I hate, I mean it wasn't over over cause it's Mahomes in them, but they totally dismantled Kansas city's offensive line. So what did the bills do? Defensive line, that's what they got. The first four, three rounds. They got put pressure on. They got put pressure on every single quarterback Burrow, Lamar, Mahomes. They got to put pressure on them and then cover behind it. That's it. That's the key for them, Because there's always been defense for them later in the year and in the playoffs.
Speaker 3:So they got to bring the heat up front. If they can figure out this, I figured to me. This is the way I'm looking at it. If you guys can figure out Keyon before they figure out Zay Flowers, because they've been right there, They've been right there. Zay drops a few. That's the only problem I've really had with zay flowers as a receiver. He drops a few. I just feel like keon, just hasn't, hasn't been fully engaged by the offensive um coordinator.
Speaker 2:I think now, yeah, he's gonna be engaged this year because right now they he's got to. He's got to because they they don't have that veteran guy like they had last year with.
Speaker 1:Amari Cooper right.
Speaker 2:Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, when I played, we had me James Lofton. James Lofton was already 12 years in the league when he came to Buffalo. Don Beebe, oh wow, the white flash. That's right, I forgot about Don.
Speaker 1:Beebe, yeah, don Beebe. Don Beebe, yeah, don Beebe the White.
Speaker 2:Flash. I saw him run dude. I was like nothing against white dudes, but I never saw a white dude run like that. That dude was faster yeah.
Speaker 3:You get about one a decade.
Speaker 5:Right now it's.
Speaker 3:McCaffrey, but he can't keep his knee right.
Speaker 4:He can't stay on the field.
Speaker 2:I'm probably going to draft him anyway. You know what some of our players say hey, you can't make plays in the tank boy, that's true hey, will there be any part of you?
Speaker 1:any part of you. I want an honest answer here. Bittersweet, if Buffalo were to win a Super Bowl and they get one in one try. Is there any party that's like? I wanted to be the guy who did that. You're talking about a party. I'm talking about winning it all the Super Bowl, Like being a part of that team.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel like I'm a part of that team, no matter what.
Speaker 1:That's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe they'd give me a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 3:They should. You know what, dre, I'm like you. I'm part of the team.
Speaker 2:I'm going to start telling them I'm part of the organization. Now You're part of the organization.
Speaker 3:I think if Gilly could get a ring, I'd get a ring.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'll tell you what, though Hold on. How did Gilly get a ring?
Speaker 3:Gilly was the mascot this year. It wasn't the eagle. Gilly was the official mascot of the Eagles this year.
Speaker 2:I met Gilly before. I don't know I met Gilly before, but he like pass him Probably at a Super Bowl. I don't know I met Gilly before, but he was on the podcast. Is that his podcast? Is that Gilly's podcast? Yeah, dude, yeah, I know. This whole thing with Cam is just off the chain.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:They need to cut that out.
Speaker 3:You got two alpha males competing on. They're arguing about were you good, as you say you were, in this period, and am I good as I am in this period? As I say I am in this period, it's not that it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:I think Gilly has a valid point, but on Cam's side of it, I mean really it's all about that Jalen Hurts has this and Cam don't got it Right. Jalen Hurts got two Super Bowl rings, cam Newton has zero. Why can't we just leave it at that Now? They acting really crazy, I think these things.
Speaker 3:This is what I talked about earlier, about when this stuff happens in public, the reaction is different.
Speaker 5:I think, gilly and.
Speaker 3:Cam in a room with themselves, no camera, just as men. I think they can push through it, because you can't talk like that if it's just Cam and Gilly in a room together, the conversation does not have this much ego in it. That I guarantee. Of course it's very easy to throw a rock from a safe place. You know it's very easy on both sides. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but don't throw rocks in glass houses either. I think you're right. If they were sitting next to each other in the same room, they would squash all that, whatever it is.
Speaker 3:But they both operate in a space where public perception and reaction kind of dictates the profit point at this point with these podcasts. So they have to, that's why I say they have to conversate in a way that creates, if not clickbait, at least a thumbnail that people want to see. Right that kind of thing, and the further that goes, the harder it is to rectify, unless they get enough views to make enough money off of it. Then everybody's happy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was. I was on his podcast at the Super Bowl this year on Cam's podcast On Cam. Yeah, good, I mean great, everything was great. He gave me a whole box of cigars. Man, these cigars were awesome. I don't know. I think he got them from Castro maybe or something. I mean Cuba. They were good cigars man. I was like man bro Anytime you want me to come back on here and get another box of cigars, give me another box.
Speaker 3:I only yeah, let me know yeah man, it's just, you know. It's like hot beef, it's rap beef. As long as they keep it on the cast, everything's fine.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask you about rap beef has it? Because I grew, grew up in, you know, when I was in high school, the 80s. You know rap is just like anything. Rap is different now than it was in the 80s. You know, my guys were Pumbo D and LL and all that dude. That's all I listened to.
Speaker 3:I mean it was a lot. It was a lot fewer people back then, so the stakes were higher, I believe, because I mean, where do you see?
Speaker 2:where do you see rap going? I mean, is it on? Is it doing it what it's supposed to be doing, or is all these mumble rap dudes kind of messing it up?
Speaker 3:Here's the thing I think rappers are in the best position they've ever been in terms of profiting off the art. Right, when people talk about the quality of music or the level of execution, right now, artists are not going to make music that their fans don't want to hear. Oh yeah, if they thought that the music they were making and the style in which they rap or write or communicate through song, if they thought people didn't want to hear that, they would strive for something different. The problem is is that no one no listener, no consumer is asking more. They're not telling them that. Well, that's the thing. It's almost like if you look at the attention span today. Right, if, let's say, every rapper did like a street rapper, tried to do something different that was deeply thoughtful. I don't know if there's a fan base out that wants that. They only want certain things from certain people. Right, it's like, if I want to hear something positive, I'll go turn on J Cole or something. Right, if I want?
Speaker 3:to hear something gangster, I'll go cut on this guy or whatever. They have a lot more choices available to them and because of that people get to fine-tune what they want to listen to. So it's almost like your whole life is built around the algorithm and playlists.
Speaker 3:you know what I'm saying, and so it's like oh, if you like this, then here's that, and what happens is they only get exposed to that. They never really get exposed to the other stuff, so they don't even have an entry point into a level of appreciation. You put the generational gap in between that. You put the generational gap in between that. You put the generational gap in between that. Then we're not supposed to like the same things. My mama didn't like my music. Her mama didn't like her music. Can you imagine people looking back at like God, I'm trying to think of who like Sam Cooke and Al Green and people like that and somebody telling them that ain't music. What is all of that Right Generationally?
Speaker 2:You know, they were the forefathers of what y'all doing.
Speaker 3:Right, right, exactly so. I try not to put myself in a place of judgment, because the reality is, dre, they're not making music for us, no more. Anyway, that music is not for us, so we're not supposed to like it, and our music ain't for them, and they're not supposed to like it.
Speaker 3:It's usually if you're a young man and your uncle or your big brother or your daddy was a guy that you looked up to and you looked at how he dressed and how he cut his hair and how he talked and the music he listened to. That's who you identify with as adulthood or manhood or cool or whatever that is, and we just we ain't cool to them.
Speaker 2:To them no more. Yeah, that's just it. I mean, why would? Why would we be?
Speaker 3:I don't wear number polo shirts and and cargo shorts. Nobody, no, 22 year old kid, want to dress like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, sometimes you got to do that though.
Speaker 3:But you know what? I'm comfortable with it, Like I'm on. I'm featured on Bryson Tiller's new album right now.
Speaker 5:I don't know if you heard it yet, Joe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm on Bryson's new album right now, so I do get appreciated by certain artists who are trying to strive higher. But sometimes they you know they really, they really climb into the top of the tree for the fruit that's on the lowest branch and it ends up a waste of effort and time and we'll be right back. Welcome to Merrick Studios, where stories take the mic and culture comes alive.
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Speaker 2:What do you think about this whole Kendrick thing, because I know that's lost in steam, but it was hot for a while, as far as I think it.
Speaker 3:Was that beef? Was that beef or not? That was legitimate. That was legitimate. Those were two people who legitimately, I don't think have gotten along for a while. I think they both believe that they represent a necessary part of the culture and the experience, which I think is valid. I think the viewpoint and the ideology that Kendrick lives by is just as important as it is for how Drake lives and operates in, because if you look at music and you look at life like when rap starts having too much fun, somebody comes in and be like hey, we tripping, we need to be paying attention to this, and this and y'all need to focus up, and then we'd lock in on that.
Speaker 3:And then, after a while of that, it and this and y'all need to focus up, and then we'd lock in on that. And then after a while of that, it'd be like man, god damn, like shit man, I just want to go somewhere relaxed, kick it and chill, have a beer and then rap lives and stuff. That's how the world like it's. It's cyclical and if you live long enough, you'll see certain shit come back around.
Speaker 3:So I don't have a problem with rappers beefing and having differences or whatever, because they all represent somebody Right and people expect like I'm from Houston, if somebody says something about Houston or Port Arthur or whatever, people would expect certain people to stand up and speak on that. You know what I'm saying, for a lot of people.
Speaker 3:It's just like boxing. It don't really. If you lose a fight, I don't have a problem with you losing a fight. If you lose a fight, I don't have a problem with you losing a fight. I do have a problem with you either not fighting back or saying what you was going to do, and then, when opportunity comes, you don't do any of what you said you do.
Speaker 3:I have no problem with somebody that gets in the ring and is willing to fight. Typically, when two people that don't get along actually fight, they tend to come out of it with respect for each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 3:But that's again. That's that one-on-one, two men in a room. We're going to either talk it out or we can box it out or whatever. That's going to be right. And when it's left, at that simplest state, two men and I talk to this about my wife all the time I say, if you see two men arguing, they already know. Both of them already know who can whoop who, but they're just in a place where neither one of them can afford to acknowledge it. So we kind of going to have to fight now, even though I know you're going to whoop me, that's cool. I still got to fight you though, just so you know. You know what I'm saying. And whenever those things happen, those two people, there's a different level of respect, because the little guy typically bows down. The guy that knows he can't fight bows down. So a guy that you know you can beat up still want to fight you. That might be, especially if he get one too. If he get one, that's commendable.
Speaker 2:Hey, guess what he might beat you up. Then you never know.
Speaker 3:If he get one in with him, you and the one-on-one with certain defenders, especially in your conference, you might get them one game. They might get you one game. I like playing against him.
Speaker 2:That's a great point, because I like playing against him. And guess what If I can beat him? That's a great point because I knew that too, there's one thing knowing it than going out there and not knowing it. I knew that, hey, I'm going to win some. As long as I win one more than you, I'm okay. I'm not going to win them all. I didn't beat everybody all the time. That's just part of the game and just like, yeah, you're absolutely right, but you got to be comfortable with that too.
Speaker 3:It's like a football game, right. You guys compete on the field, and no matter how friendly your competition is on the field, and even if y'all respect each other in the form of combat in the middle of confrontation, there's still fights in the stands, there's still fights in the parking lot, so it's the residual shit that's really bad. Typically one-on-one it's not an issue right.
Speaker 2:Just go to a Cowboys Eagles game, you'll see that.
Speaker 3:All day.
Speaker 2:All day, all day. If you're a Cowboys fan and you're an Eagles fan and they're playing in Philly, something's going down. There's a lot going down.
Speaker 3:I took a Giants fan when we played the Patriots, when the Texans played the Patriots, and they were more mad at him. Just for the happening audacity to wear a New York Giants hat.
Speaker 2:Oh, in the Patriots stadium.
Speaker 3:Yes, in Gillette Stadium.
Speaker 1:I don't blame him. He shouldn't have that on there. He's a New Yorker. What are you going to do? You know what?
Speaker 2:But guess what? Tom Guess what he's close to New York.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, not close enough in that room.
Speaker 3:They threw popcorn and shit at him. All game you know why. Because they knew they could concentrate on him, because they were dog walking us on the field. This was the first varsity jacket game, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you this. I went to the NFC Championship this past year. I'm a Commanders fan and I went to Philly. I couldn't get out of there fast enough it was a tough game. You know, they got a jail in there. My wife protected me.
Speaker 2:She was an tough game, you know. They got a jail in there. My wife protected me.
Speaker 1:She was an Eagles fan.
Speaker 2:You know they got a jail in that stadium, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:There's a reason for that.
Speaker 3:I might ask for protective custody Dude.
Speaker 4:I went to a game Security.
Speaker 2:Invited these people to a game in Buffalo and the dude that I was with showed up. We were playing the Broncos. Showed up with a Broncos shirt on yeah, with you Buffalo as your guest, as my guest. I was like this. I was like dude I I was like dude, I ain't know what to do.
Speaker 1:I go, hey, you can't come up in there with me like that Do you make him take it off? You have to take it off, yeah.
Speaker 3:We went to a Rockets Mavericks game. Jason Terry invited us up to the game and gave us floor seats, like courtside foot on the wood, and every time the Rockets would score, my wife's jumping up Like yes, yeah. And Max looking at me, like Terry looking at me, like bro, what is she doing? Like what are y'all doing? I was like man, you can't stop it, it is what it is, bro. You shouldn't have invited her, you shouldn't have invited her.
Speaker 2:Hey, let's talk. You want to talk about the team now?
Speaker 1:I don't want to take too much of your time. Here's what I wanted to know.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm sitting here I'm with one of my favorite rappers, man I'm with one of my favorite rappers man, I'm with you. And one of my favorite rappers, bum B, come on.
Speaker 3:I'm talking football with a Hall of Famer man. I'm having a ball.
Speaker 1:I'm going to ask this question for you. I know you're a big fantasy guy fantasy football. I got a note from Andre Reid.
Speaker 3:Who's your top three receivers in the game? Today that Bum's got a draft in his upcoming fantasy football league.
Speaker 1:I need this inside information. Hold on, let me get my notes out. Get your notes out.
Speaker 4:I like this, I like this Well, you know what, but you figure, bun, you figure.
Speaker 2:Justin, jefferson, jamar, they're going to be gone. Right, you can't get all three.
Speaker 3:You can't, you can't, I mean, do you have a shot at getting one of them as far as receiver one yeah, they'll be gone, right, right, okay.
Speaker 2:So, with that being said, what are your options? Because they're trying to get them two dudes first.
Speaker 3:I'm ace pick, I'm ace pick, I'm ace pick, so I'm probably going to get. I'm probably going to get. I'm either going to get a top five receiver or a top five running back. I got to make a pick.
Speaker 2:So either one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would probably go receiver one because I feel like receiver one after 10 starts to drop precipitously, whereas running backs. I'll still have a decent choice of running back in the third round or so.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you one person that really I think is going to have a good year is DK Metcalf. I think DK is going to, I think Rodgers is going. He's going to get him the ball, because I don't think Geno could really.
Speaker 3:Geno couldn't match it right. That's the thing.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not that he couldn't match it. I think the play calling was a little bit suspect up there in Seattle. Okay, that's fair, but I like, even though Tomlin doesn't call, the play calling was a little bit suspect up there in Seattle. Okay, that's fair, but I like, even though Tomlin doesn't call the plays and I don't know who the offensive coordinator is for Pittsburgh, but they're just like. They got him and Pickens, you better get them, dudes, the ball.
Speaker 5:They ain't had nobody get them the ball last year. Well, who are the receivers they had last?
Speaker 3:year. They had Wilson. That was it. They had Wilson, that was it.
Speaker 2:So they had Pickens, right, wasn't Pickens?
Speaker 1:hurt. Last year no Pickens was there, and now he's gone. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Pickens is in Dallas.
Speaker 5:Dallas now.
Speaker 2:So it's him, and it's DK Metcalf. Who's the other guy? The?
Speaker 1:other guy is Austin. Last name Austin. That's his first name. He's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is good. He's a sleepy good, yeah, but CeeDee Lamb, I mean, can't go wrong with him, no, and Pickens is a second I just don't know if my pride will let me draft CeeDee Lamb.
Speaker 1:No, you can't pick CeeDee Lamb. My pride will let me draft CD Lamb. No, you can't pick CD Lamb.
Speaker 2:And then again there's not enough football to go around for both of those guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got a sneaky one for you. I want your opinion on this guy. This might be a tough one, though he's one of those guys who, like James Cook, is in a little bit of a contract negotiation. What?
Speaker 5:happens with Terry.
Speaker 3:McLaurin Ooh, mm Scary Terry Ooh, is he overpricing himself? No, he's deserving of that. I mean because he's good, right?
Speaker 2:No, no, he's really good, terry McLaurin is good and he got a quarterback that gets him that shit. He gets him the ball.
Speaker 3:But he's placing his price based on his production period Because Jaden just got there you know what I'm saying and Terry's been the best player on that command, been the best offensive player on that team, until Jaden got there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I uh. So he's not signed yet, right, tom?
Speaker 1:No, it's very stressful here in the Washington DC area, Brian.
Speaker 3:Thomas Jr. All respect. It's scary man.
Speaker 2:Any movement at all in the last couple days.
Speaker 1:No, and I check it every minute.
Speaker 2:Who's the second guy? Never saw him.
Speaker 1:Well, the second guy is Debo. Remember they picked up Debo Samuels there?
Speaker 4:Oh, that's right. I got Debo Samuels, that's right.
Speaker 1:I forgot about that he becomes great with Terry, but without Terry maybe he's the number one, but it's not a great number one.
Speaker 3:Debo Samuels is not a wide receiver one. Never that yeah.
Speaker 2:Not at this, maybe when he was. He's a hybrid.
Speaker 4:When he was with the 49ers. He kind of was.
Speaker 1:For a little bit yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a good one, tom. I don't know what McLaren is like. I don't. I don't know. Has his agent said anything, or anybody has said anything about what he's looking for? Is he?
Speaker 1:looking for? I'll tell you who messed him up. He's looking for top six. He's looking for DK money.
Speaker 3:Who he's looking for top five, top six, receiver money Comparable. He knows he's not top three, but he believes he's top five, top six for sure.
Speaker 1:And I think DK Metcalf threw everything off this year because I personally think the Steelers might have overpaid him. And now he's set a whole other market, which you said earlier in this podcast that the market sets the market. So you gotta put your worth out there now.
Speaker 2:So that's gonna be interesting. You're right, because I think he's going to hold his ground, Because he's not going to get Jamar or get. Maybe he'll get T Higgins money.
Speaker 3:Again, like I said, top five, top six, right yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's T Higgins top six. No, no, you're playing next to Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4:No no you're getting a pretty big payday.
Speaker 2:Dude. That's the first time I've ever seen two receivers on the same squad get that kind of dough. Yeah, I was born about 10 years too early.
Speaker 3:I had Burrow and I had Higgins last year and outside of injury he was very, very productive. He's a really, really good player. I just don't know. And then the commanders are not an organization that throws money at players anywhere.
Speaker 2:Ain't enough balls to go around. I don't care who you got. Ain't enough balls to go around.
Speaker 3:Ain't enough balls to go around with you To justify the money, justify that salary.
Speaker 4:I totally forgot about that guy. Oh yeah, these other guys.
Speaker 3:They're going to get all the touches that their price demands. For sure CD's going to get his, jefferson's going to get his, jamar's going to get his. He's going to split with T.
Speaker 2:Jamar's going to get his. He's still going to get his ball Is Pickens going to act a fool, though Probably so.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is. He's highly regarded as a YN in this league.
Speaker 4:He's capable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's been a YN since he came to the NFL right now.
Speaker 2:He's really capable of doing that. But see, Mike Tomlin did such a good job with him. Tomlin is good. He did, tomlin kind of kept him under.
Speaker 1:I think we lost him again. We lost you at volume. Check it out. It says that his audience is there you go.
Speaker 4:There you go, is it?
Speaker 2:McCarthy, who's the head coach?
Speaker 3:No, mccarthy's not the coach anymore. Is he? Who is he?
Speaker 2:Who is it?
Speaker 3:He's got. It's a something burger, got something like that. Yeah, yeah, he's got a very, very long, weird name they went from bad to worse from a coach's aspect, in my opinion, it's Brian.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute. The head coach now is Brian Schottenheimer right.
Speaker 2:Yes, there it is, there it is.
Speaker 4:I knew it was Schottenheimer.
Speaker 1:That's the guy who's coming from right, Because that's the son. Didn't his dad His dad?
Speaker 4:was a coach. Marty Schottenheimer. Marty Schottenheimer, he was a. What was he an?
Speaker 2:offensive coordinator right, yes, Before, yeah. So I just want you guys to know sometimes offensive coordinators do not make good head coaches.
Speaker 4:North Turner.
Speaker 2:There's too much going on, but obviously Jerry knows something that we don't know. I think Brian Schottenheimer would do a better job than McCarthy.
Speaker 3:You think he's better for the culture of the locker room? Yeah, or is it just? Anybody would be better right now, frankly.
Speaker 2:I think Brian Schottenheimer will be better.
Speaker 3:Because McCarthy lost him, he lost those guys.
Speaker 2:He lost them years ago. And then guess who's trying to clean that up? The owner?
Speaker 3:No, of course, Jerry Jones. Jerry, the mess he made.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 2:I just don't see both of those guys getting six targets a game. Him and Pickens CD ain't going to like that and Pickens ain't going to like that and Pickens ain't going to like that.
Speaker 5:Watch, I give that about 4 or 5 games, y'all and then it just blows up then you're just going to see highlights and then blowing up on the sideline and some interesting post game comments.
Speaker 2:Oh, pickens you don't know what do you really Pickens?
Speaker 4:You don't know Pickens. What do you really mean?
Speaker 2:by that you don't know what's coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 3:He could very well be AD on the road. He could play now.
Speaker 2:He's a hell of a receiver. Shoot him.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a hell of a receiver.
Speaker 4:He definitely got AB tendencies.
Speaker 3:And on the field he's just as good as the receiver.
Speaker 1:Oh, and on the field he's just as good as the receiver. Oh yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 2:He's a good kid, but he's also a liability. I don't know how that's going to work.
Speaker 4:Andre, how do you feel about Diggs leaving?
Speaker 2:That was inevitable, man, he burned a lot of bridges out there Buffalo.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:When he left.
Speaker 2:I had so many people talking to me about and I met the dude one time. I briefly met him. I briefly met him at a game it was the opening game last year, two years ago, two years ago probably, yeah and he was out there on the field warming up and I was with Thurman and Jim and Bruce. And I go, I'm going to go up to say something to Stephon, because I never really met him, and I went up. I was going to go up and shake his hand and say, hey, man, he kind of gave me a bad vibe, bro, like get away from me. You know that kind of vibe. I was like I'm not coming up to you again.
Speaker 2:You should be coming up to me. Yeah, that's kind of strange. Until your name is up on that wall up there, that's all I'm saying. I kind of lost a little respect for him. Great player, lost a little respect. See, I'm the kind of guy if I see him again.
Speaker 3:I'll go up to him again because that's the kind of guy I am. I'm like that, I like that, I like that. Suddenly, I know what you mean when you say that I like that. I like that. I like that. I need people to. I need you to tell me you don't like me, because otherwise I'm going to keep coming in your face.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to need you to tell me you don't like me yeah, and sooner or later you're going to have to tell me something You're going to have to tell me. But, guys, I have the bills going 13 and 4.
Speaker 1:13 and 4 this year. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Well, y'all got a strong schedule. You still think that you got a strong schedule, but you know what?
Speaker 2:For every strong schedule there's a lull, like right in the middle of the season, where there's a lot of trap games and they play the NFC. South this year. Nothing against Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans they got to go. They got New Orleans. They got to go, they got New Orleans. And who's the other team? Atlanta?
Speaker 3:New Orleans, carolina, is it?
Speaker 2:Tampa. Is it Tampa? They got New Orleans and.
Speaker 3:Tampa at home.
Speaker 2:And they got Carolina Carolina Atlanta away. New Orleans and Atlanta at home and they're right in the middle of the season, like pretty close to like around Thanksgiving, something like that. So there's some trap games. Atlanta is going to be better this year. I think Carolina is going to be a little better. I think Carolina's going to be better, a little better. You just don't know with the Saints, because who's the quarterback.
Speaker 1:That's janky, that's very janky.
Speaker 4:Who's the quarterback? That's janky Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 1:Because the other guy retired right. Kind of unexpectedly, he's the starting quarterback for the Saints.
Speaker 3:Right now, that's your starter.
Speaker 4:Right now they're predicting Spencer Rattler to start, because Carr retired kind of unexpectedly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, derek Carr, retired Carr, retired. Winston is out of there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, Jameis is going. Jameis is in New York. Now they're saying it looks like Spencer Rattler. So yeah, I don't think New Orleans is going to be doing too much.
Speaker 3:Every third game, taysom Hill, will start.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Taysom Hill wow.
Speaker 2:I just see in that division. I see Atlanta winning that division, not Tampa. They're going to be fighting with Tampa. I think Atlanta with Tampa. I think I just think Atlanta with B John Robinson. I just think Atlanta has a better shot at winning that division Atlanta's got to figure out if the Pinks is going to start.
Speaker 3:I feel like the Bucks come back with a defined team. They know who their running back is they know who their receivers are.
Speaker 2:They have a very clearly defined team.
Speaker 3:Baker had a their running back is. They know where their receivers are.
Speaker 2:You can't go wrong with Baker. They have a very clearly defined team. Baker had a great year last year. I like Baker, kenny Duper, take that.
Speaker 3:He really did.
Speaker 2:Because he was supposed to be left for dead, like two years ago.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 2:And he was supposed to be like yeah, so that's going to be interesting to see, and Bryce Young will be a little better. Did they get anybody around?
Speaker 4:here Did they get anybody to catch the ball.
Speaker 3:That doesn't say much, it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much for no I don't think so it doesn't take much.
Speaker 2:Who are the receivers? I'm with you.
Speaker 4:I think Thielen's still there, thielen, but I Thielen's still there.
Speaker 1:But I don't think anybody knew.
Speaker 2:Thielen's about 50 years old, isn't he, thielen's?
Speaker 3:been around for a minute now. He gets by on size, though. He wins a lot of matchups and coverage.
Speaker 2:He's crafty man.
Speaker 4:He's crafty.
Speaker 1:I got a lot in between. Picture me saying that just now and a guy like andre going there's that guy drinking chips and beer, sitting on his couch making fun of him. He's no way he could play in the league talking about talking about oh my god oh man yeah, I see the bills going yes, sir, thank you sir thank you. I feel like we could talk all day I know I can't thank you.
Speaker 2:See, you know I always take this as we're sitting in the living room. I was sitting on the couch, you know, whatever and one of my favorite rappers and of all time in bun b, and Much respect to you, man, and what you did in your career in the rap game. You were in my headphones many times. And then Tom, thank you, and Jeff, thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 3:Look, Bills was the first starter jacket I ever had in rap. In rap, that means a lot.
Speaker 2:You typically end up in a black starter first, they're trying to get them starter jackets. Now, man, there's a company that has those starter jackets. They're going to kick it back up.
Speaker 3:Carl owns it now right? I think so.
Speaker 4:Carl for the Giants.
Speaker 3:Starter jackets and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So those are coming back, man, those are coming back.
Speaker 3:Man, it was a pleasure talking to somebody like you To be able to talk football with a Gold Jacket recipient. That's like for a football fan. That's up there, bro.
Speaker 4:That's up there, absolutely. That's up there, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I love how you guys play this sport man.
Speaker 2:We all got to go to a game sometime. Man, where you live You're in Houston, I'll come down into Houston. Man, I'll come down to Houston, I got to come to Buffalo in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3:I got to come in a couple of weeks for West Side Gun Day, oh really.
Speaker 2:Wow, I, oh, really wow. Yeah, I'll be there. Like I said, I'll be there for the uh, for the rain game one game one against the ravens. That should be a. That should be a barn burner um, probably go to one or two more games up there. Um, definitely have to go to a cold game. I always say, man, those fans in buffalo bro, the best fans in sports rain, sleet or there Jumping off the tables on fire, taking their kids, throwing them off the tables I saw last year, bruh. I saw last year.
Speaker 3:I defer to Bill's laughing.
Speaker 2:Dude, I tell you. One dude took his kid. Kid was probably five years old, he was on top of the bus, Jumped off the bus on a table with his kid and then drank a beer out of a bowling ball.
Speaker 3:Some people don't deserve kids or bowling balls.
Speaker 1:Bun, we're going up for a game we're going to jump off.
Speaker 2:It is the best experience. I'm telling you, Bun, it would be the best experience. They treat me like I never. They treat me like I can't. Even If I tried to do something wrong. I could never do wrong, Even if I tried, Like if my ego's really hurt, that's where I go.
Speaker 3:I love it. That's a great one.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 3:That tells me everything.
Speaker 2:My ego's back on track but they're some of the best fans will give it a shirt off. They back, so big shout out to Bills Mafia. All the fans up there in Buffalo. I'll be up there for the first game. Bills Ravens, lamar, josh craziness it's going to be a good one. I appreciate you guys Much love, appreciate you, thank you.
Speaker 4:Andre. Thank you, andre, this was amazing.
Speaker 1:That is Andre Reid. If you take one thing away, here's what I took away Respect.
Speaker 5:There it is.
Speaker 3:For me it was legacy, legacy. I love it. I love that man putting your legacy and proper perspective out here. Thanks for your time, andre man.
Speaker 2:We really appreciate it Of course man, of course, nothing like you know. Like I said, I grew up on LL and Kumo D and I used to listen to the Force MDs. I mean, you know, back in the day, bro, I had all my headphones, man. Oh, come on, tender love All that, come, come on.
Speaker 3:I know, what's up? We got to get you here for a game and a burger man. We got to get you to Houston for a game and a burger.
Speaker 2:I'm down with that one, bro, definitely.
Speaker 5:Thank you so much, we'll keep in touch, frank.
Speaker 2:I'll give you my number. Give the bun, give the Jeff, so we can stay in touch this year.
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'll definitely come down, man. I couldn't imagine walking in Houston Stadium there with Bun B man.
Speaker 1:There it is. That's going to be something.
Speaker 3:We're going to have to stadium swap. I'm going to have to walk in with you in your stadium and you come in mine.
Speaker 2:And I tell you that collabo you did with what's his name With?
Speaker 3:Trey Songz. Oh wow, he went back back. Hold you down. That was the vibe right there. Come on, man, Come on.
Speaker 2:I get chills on that. One man, I get chills on that, Thank you legend.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. Thank you, man Appreciate you guys. This is amazing.
Speaker 4:Thank you, Andre.
Speaker 3:This makes for a perfect introductory hosting episode of Bun B on Unglossy Podcast. This is a perfect way, thank you for bringing me in the right way, my man.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you ain't nothing wrong with being glossy, but when you're unglossy, that's when it's all right, we're using that.
Speaker 4:Andre Couldn't have said it better right there. Couldn't have said it better Until next time.
Speaker 1:I'm Tom Frank. I'm Bun B Jeffrey Sledge.
Speaker 4:I'm Tom Frank. I'm Bun B Jeffrey Sledge.
Speaker 2:I'm their first guest, ray, he is.
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